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Jagster08/Solid_snake619 [Banned]

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Morpheus

Lord of Altera
Villager
Morpheus_Dream
Morpheus_Dream
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First of all let me say that this is a ban appeal.

I log in on my alt account with the intention of Roleplaying my character "En ymmärrä".

Considering I haven't got round to writing up a character profile I'll give you the short version.
The Character doesn't speak English, in fact he only speaks Finnish.
As a player I speak perfect English, I don't actually speak Finnish I'm using darned Google translate.
He's not from this land and even his name is "I don't understand" in Finnish. This was intended as a little joke as somewhere his actual name got lost in translation.

I go into the crossroads inn and in roleplay ask where I could find a horse. The person confused by this (which was to be expected), wonders off and later comes back and tells me that if I wanted to speak another language I should use <>. However that negates the whole point of my character as he's not supposed to understand you or you understand him. Perhaps later he would learn common.

Now you're probably wondering, but wait how did you get banned for that?

After checking the entire rules section about not being able to in-roleplay speak another language and finding that there was no rule. I explained this to the other player only for them to get a staff member who basically made up a rule on the spot and then to have the cheek to dare to remove my darned roleplay name.

I'm angry at this for three reasons:
1. Because it's ruining my valid roleplay, in no way did I ever speak Finnish outside of Rp chat.
2. Because despite me trying to show that I am in fact correct, the staff member simply went "Might makes right" and essentially made up a rule on the spot.
3. Because the staff member claimed my roleplay was "Trolling" simply because of a simple comment where I said that it was funny to mess with people, meaning that watching people not understand my character was in fact rather amusing.

I'm sure you could call me out an arguing with a staff member, because I did. But that's is because I'm not willing to be bossed around by someone making up rules on the spot.

All in all, I am incredibly offended by the staff member in question's actions and I really think everyone is making a big deal out of something small. This was no way done with the intention of trolling
 

Naelwyn

Non sum qualis eram
622393922014-08-27 14:14:38Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11040.1,71,5550.5Hei!
622394072014-08-27 14:15:12Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11040.1,71,5550.5Toivoin voisit suoraan minulle hevonen?
622394752014-08-27 14:15:27Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11041.1,71,5550.4Sinä?
622396202014-08-27 14:16:02Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11041.1,71,5550.4Ei?
622396422014-08-27 14:16:06Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11041.1,71,5550.4Bah
622401092014-08-27 14:19:17Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1Kyllä?
622401242014-08-27 14:20:09Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1En ymmärrä
622402062014-08-27 14:21:34Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1(Tehehehe I'm good)
622402482014-08-27 14:22:03Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1(To confuse you_

622402502014-08-27 14:22:05Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1)
622402912014-08-27 14:23:02Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11034.8,79,5502.1(tehehehe)
622402992014-08-27 14:23:18Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11052,72,5515.8(No rule against it)
622407612014-08-27 14:26:37Solid_Snake619ChatAltera11011,72,5486Oops
622408812014-08-27 14:27:12Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10942.2,69,5630.1Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: Now you see, after a little read of all of the rules. I don't see anythign that says I'm not
622409252014-08-27 14:27:32Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10942.2,69,5630.1Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: Allowed to roleplay speaking another language
622409532014-08-27 14:27:52Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10942.2,69,5630.1Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: So if you would kindly direct me to this rule, it would be most helpful fo you
622410422014-08-27 14:29:01Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10835.2,70,5611.2Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: 2. No caps. No Spam. No Cursing. Using text chat like " U, Ur, K, Y, numbers for letters is
622410552014-08-27 14:29:14Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10835.2,70,5611.2Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: heavily discouraged. Please do not use "all-caps"; if a staff has to keep reminding people of
622410652014-08-27 14:29:27Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10835.2,70,5611.2Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: the No Caps, No Spam, and No Cursing rules, kicks, and various bans will be administered as
622410852014-08-27 14:29:37Solid_Snake619PMHollowMessaging -Altera10835.2,70,5611.2Solid_Snake619 -> FrostGuardian: the team sees fit. Remember, we are a mature server.
622411322014-08-27 14:30:10Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10852.8,67,5616.9Tehehehe


622425202014-08-27 14:34:00MichcatChatAltera11631.2,125.4,6579.4Hm?
622425782014-08-27 14:34:17MichcatChatAltera10992.4,68,5605.5...
622425852014-08-27 14:34:19MichcatChatAltera10992.4,68,5605.5Oi guys
622426452014-08-27 14:34:26MichcatChatAltera10992.4,68,5605.5Cmon, use-
622426972014-08-27 14:34:34MichcatChatAltera10992.4,68,5605.5Cmon.
622427012014-08-27 14:34:36MichcatChatAltera10992.4,68,5605.5Use english, guys.
622427412014-08-27 14:34:46MichcatChatAltera11011.9,79,5572.4Its cute, but please.
622427522014-08-27 14:34:53MichcatChatAltera11011.9,79,5572.4NinjaTangerine, you too.
622427582014-08-27 14:35:02MichcatChatAltera11014.3,79,5546.6... Sorry?
622428222014-08-27 14:35:26MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5I, as a staff member
622428352014-08-27 14:35:29MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5Am telling you to cut it out
622428832014-08-27 14:35:42MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5( grr )
622429172014-08-27 14:35:48MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5( Where'd Epona go )
622429342014-08-27 14:35:50MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5...
622429552014-08-27 14:35:58MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5There is also a rule against arguing with staff.
622429792014-08-27 14:36:05MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5I am happy to bring this into PM's, bro;
622430292014-08-27 14:36:17MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5But I kindly request you use the main language of the server- Did I mention there is a rule against
622430342014-08-27 14:36:18MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5"trolling"?
622430542014-08-27 14:36:22MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5I read your logs.
622430702014-08-27 14:36:34MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5Speaking finnish just to mess with people is NOT okay, you have no IC or OOC justification for that.
622432762014-08-27 14:36:46MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5Do you understand that I request you politely cease this activity?
622433212014-08-27 14:37:17MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5I'm sorry then, I am going to ban you until we can get this issue sorted to prevent any further
622433222014-08-27 14:37:19MichcatChatAltera11037,71,5548.5acts of trolling.

622411322014-08-27 14:30:10Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10852.8,67,5616.9Tehehehe
622417652014-08-27 14:31:59Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10960,70,5615Frostguardian getting mad cause I got a finnish rp character :I
622423832014-08-27 14:33:27Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10922,66.5,5613.9*shrug*
622424732014-08-27 14:33:52Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10889,69,5625.4:)
622425962014-08-27 14:34:20Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10933.5,69,5626.7Oh dear
622427092014-08-27 14:34:38Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10874.9,69,5624.9What
622427482014-08-27 14:34:50Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10874.9,69,5624.9OI
622427552014-08-27 14:34:56Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10874.9,69,5624.9Read your owns rules
622427892014-08-27 14:35:19Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10873.4,69,5624.9No rule on not using other languages in rp
622429032014-08-27 14:35:45Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10878.3,68,5658.8And I as a person with eyes am telling you to read your own rules
622430242014-08-27 14:36:15Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10920.1,68,5684.8Come at me
622432862014-08-27 14:36:57Solid_Snake619ChatAltera10892.6,70,5682.8No


Everything I could find on the incident in question.

"Come at me", Really?

It is generally impossible to list every single possible thing someone could do wrong in a giant index of rules. I think in the end people wouldn't end up reading it either if it was. Staff members have discretion to ask people to stop things regardless of whether or not it is officially laid out in the rules and hiding behind a loophold of "You didn't explicitly say I couldn't" is rather meaningless.

This isn't so much about the speaking of another language for character (The Lavoyard group has done this, but has also strived to set up a cultural background where it makes sense and they seem to only use the occasional word, which is a bit immersive.) but for just generally being argumentative with people asking you to stop and having a poor attitude and a negative impact on the community.

Seeing as you were already on thin ice since you were like this the last time you were on the server, and it was with hesitation and watchfulness that you were allowed back on in the first place, I feel it's completely appropriate to tell you that I feel you haven't changed one bit in over two years, and that you are no longer welcome here.
 
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