[Request]Souls Rituals

[Mryosi]

I'm here on behalf of house Silverian.

The house seeks for new kind of ability, the ability of preforming souls rituals. These rituals would only be accessible for family members only. It would be wrong for everyone participating to perform them on any other man or woman than a member of the Silverian family.
Also, it is essencial, and another restriction we want to take, that only one member, the High Priestess of Dragons (some religioous/philosophical leader of Silverians, also adressed as Empress of Dragons)will be able to perform it.
Basically we want to bring back dead family members in an awesome way.
In the ritual the empress will take a living form as sacrifice and harvest its soul and then take another soul and put it in the new body. So basically a dead soul gets a new body withhin that ritual.
Only a Silverian soul could pass from body to body, it could only pass with the help of the ritual. Without ritual preparations before ist dead it will stay dead foerever.
The sacrifice's soul could be kept in a special bottle made for the soul i fit is extracted properly.
It is really an on going idea and won't be used much - at all. We are willing to accept any restriction you will set if you approve it.

 

[Michcat]

This falls exactly under Mysticism, as a part of Divine Mysticism and Negative Mysticism (Necromancy yo )

Unfortunately, anyone who is taught Mysticism will be able to perform this (It will not be selected to Silverians unless only a Silverian was taught), if it is learned. And nor would it be as you describe- in fact, it will probably be rather altered if such a thing was done.
On the upside, only the Sisterhood (Inaccessable) and the Mysticism Magus (Who teaches Mysticism), are mystics.

I highly suggest you read up on the mysticism magic and how it works

If you'd like your High Priestess to be able to perform such a.. ritual, or something akin to it, she would best look into learning myticism. However, I should note, learning any form of magic is both difficult and frustrating to begin.

 

[Mryosi]

This falls exactly under Mysticism, as a part of Divine Mysticism and Negative Mysticism (Necromancy yo )

Unfortunately, anyone who is taught Mysticism will be able to perform this (It will not be selected to Silverians unless only a Silverian was taught), if it is learned. And nor would it be as you describe- in fact, it will probably be rather altered if such a thing was done.
On the upside, only the Sisterhood (Inaccessable) and the Mysticism Magus (Who teaches Mysticism), are mystics.

I highly suggest you read up on the mysticism magic and how it works

If you'd like your High Priestess to be able to perform such a.. ritual, or something akin to it, she would best look into learning myticism. However, I should note, learning any form of magic is both difficult and frustrating to begin.

I see, although dragons are magic, it can be looked as a gift from the dragon which is already in our lore. Can't it?

 

[K9]

I see, although dragons are magic, it can be looked as a gift from the dragon which is already in our lore. Can't it?

Dragons are dead, go read the magic lore

-K9

 

[Mryosi]

Dragons are dead, go read the magic lore

-K9

They are dead but their magic is still alive. There are many elements of dragons still tied to Silverian. The dragon did came and gave a 'gift' to Silverian. This might as well be part of it.

 

[Naelwyn]

If you aren't going to co-operate or take the well-meaning advice as to how to achieve something, then it's my job to be Mr. Buzzkill then.

No, end of.

 

[Mryosi]

If you aren't going to co-operate or take the well-meaning advice as to how to achieve something, then it's my job to be Mr. Buzzkill then.

No, end of.

So assuming our priestess will succeed to learn magic, what could she do which is similar to that?

 

[Mitch]

So assuming our priestess will succeed to learn magic, what could she do which is similar to that?

http://hollowworld.co.uk/threads/magic-of-body-and-soul-mysticism.25494/#post-366423

 

[Mryosi]

http://hollowworld.co.uk/threads/magic-of-body-and-soul-mysticism.25494/#post-366423

Yeah, but will be able to get permission to expand beyond that and maybe getting a little bit closer to the ritual like described (not only our priestess)

 

[K9]

Yeah, but will be able to get permission to expand beyond that and maybe getting a little bit closer to the ritual like described (not only our priestess)

You seem to be somewhat unwilling to read the entirety of the magic lore. If you had, you would not be asking these questions.

Let me quote some things at you.

3) Create their own Magus-approved spell of the Adept level.

Creating new spells of levels of skill you can use. Self-explanatory. The Magician creates a new spell they could conceivably use, and tosses it to the Magus. If the Magus approves of the spell completely and needs to make no changes to the spell at all to balance it before inclusion, then the Magician earns points towards advancing in the discipline they made a spell for. Structured so that Magicians err on the side of 'low-powered' on all submissions.

The player must create a Magnum Opus, a personalized, special spell. It is extremely unlikely-to-impossible that any other mage can replicate a Magnum Opus, and even if they could, it wouldn't function as efficiently or as properly as the mage that invented it.

Now, see, if you manage to convince Lathan to take you under his wing and teach you, you may create your own spells. However, they must be approved. Now let's say all of the people that are these priests and priestesses are top notch quality and all make it to master level, then they each may create their own Magnum Opus.

Now, let us be somewhat logical here. You may create your own spells and your own Magnum Opus, and why you may wish with all your heart that it had everything to do with Dragons, unless you are willing to dance with the lore team it won't happen.

This is a two way street. If you want this to happen, do your homework, write awesome lore and be willing to work with the lore team. The people who have designed this system know it best and they only want the best for the server.



So, to summarize.

1. Wow
2. Such Homework
3. Much Write
4. Wow
5. Very Dragon

-K9

 

[Michaël Dirix]

do your homework, write awesome lore and be willing to work with the lore team.

How about reading the admin approved lore that was made when the House was founded, oh yea, do your homework

 

[BarbarianGaming]

If I am right all magic before the magic lore was implemented is now void and dead.
Also,

No, end of.

 

[Michaël Dirix]

The question is .....can Asgar's gift be defined as magic
anyway challenge accepted, I've got some lore to care for *flies off*

 

[mairinbaihn]

Seems like @Naelwyn has already clarified what needs to be done...seeing as he is lore master, his word needs to be respected. There are no other alternatives.

 

[Mryosi]

Seems like @Naelwyn has already clarified what needs to be done...seeing as he is lore master, his word needs to be respected. There are no other alternatives.

No one is disrespecting him or his word. It has just being pointed out that Silverian lore which has been 100% approved has some elements which could be looked at and considered. No one has any intention doing something which is not approved, although it could help if the staff will look at Silverian lore which is very important to our gameplay.
We just hate to see our ideas taken down without regarding all the facts. If all is considered and the answer is still no, we will accept it happily.

 

[K9]

How about reading the admin approved lore that was made when the House was founded, oh yea, do your homework

How about you not make sarcastic comments when all I'm trying to do is help? I also have read said lore before and last time I check, it was weak things, not bring back the dead. I had no idea dragons could pass souls from body to body and I'm somewhat confident in my knowledge to say that long dead dragons didn't have a need to bring back their dead, otherwise they wouldn't be dead.

As has been said before, you guys have to work with the lore time. I'm not trying to stop this or tell you what to do, I have nothing to do with the lore team. All I am trying to do is help.

-K9

 

[mairinbaihn]

No one is disrespecting him or his word. It has just being pointed out that Silverian lore which has been 100% approved has some elements which could be looked at and considered. No one has any intention doing something which is not approved, although it could help if the staff will look at Silverian lore which is very important to our gameplay.
We just hate to see our ideas taken down without regarding all the facts. If all is considered and the answer is still no, we will accept it happily.

Just seems like he's already told you guys the avenue in which to go about it, and he would know all about Silverian lore and it's current approval with the new magic lore released. I know it may be a bummer that what used to be accepted may not now be, but it still seems like through this currently accepted lore, you guys could achieve something similar, even if its limited to just your priestess/priests learning through these ways. I know your not really arguing it, just seems like others are. I'm really too sick at the moment to be certain, but I'd just continue to work it out with @Naelwyn and I'm sure he will make it clearer then I can >.<

 

[BarbarianGaming]

@Mryosi what you are basically requesting is to bypass the time it takes to learn magic while other players are taking time to slowly learn magic. We all understand that your houses lore includes a type of magic, which you have stated many times, but it would be viewed as unfair by other players for your house or priestesses just to be able to do magic without taking the necessary steps. Please dont continue this argument any further as Naelwyn has already said no.

 

[Mryosi]

@Mryosi what you are basically requesting is to bypass the time it takes to learn magic while other players are taking time to slowly learn magic. We all understand that your houses lore includes a type of magic, which you have stated many times, but it would be viewed as unfair by other players for your house or priestesses just to be able to do magic without taking the necessary steps. Please dont continue this argument any further as Naelwyn has already said no.

We understood that we will not be able to bypass magic, this is the reason we created this post. We wanted to use a section of our lore which might allow it while understanding that we are asking is not THE magic.
We understand that the community is not willing to accept anything outside of the 'main stream' of magic which is fine.
I don't think that our tone passed clearly, none of us are arguing or claiming that we should receive it or that it is our right. If you will look closely I have no disagreed with anyone, I just pointed things which should be looked at. While that being said, I got the answer, we won't be able to do it without learning magic.
If it sounded like as any of us were arguing or asking to cheat and bypass magic, we are truthfully sorry and it wasn't our intention - at all.
We got our answer and thanks for everyone who answered.

 

[Michcat]

I see, although dragons are magic, it can be looked as a gift from the dragon which is already in our lore. Can't it?

They are dead but their magic is still alive. There are many elements of dragons still tied to Silverian. The dragon did came and gave a 'gift' to Silverian. This might as well be part of it.

The question is .....can Asgar's gift be defined as magic
anyway challenge accepted, I've got some lore to care for *flies off*

How about reading the admin approved lore that was made when the House was founded, oh yea, do your homework

No one is disrespecting him or his word. It has just being pointed out that Silverian lore which has been 100% approved has some elements which could be looked at and considered. No one has any intention doing something which is not approved, although it could help if the staff will look at Silverian lore which is very important to our gameplay.
We just hate to see our ideas taken down without regarding all the facts. If all is considered and the answer is still no, we will accept it happily.

Could you please link me to the entirety of this admin approved lore, as well as including the date when which it was approved and who apparently decided this?
Looking forward to working stuff out with you. I'm sorry it took so long for a reply, I was on the other side of the continent