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Hawklight was the real OG, we had angels, demons and l33t wizards, even a guy who was somehow related to harateth.OG Hawklight days, if I recall correct. Maybe not. I'm not as old as I boast to be.
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Hawklight was the real OG, we had angels, demons and l33t wizards, even a guy who was somehow related to harateth.OG Hawklight days, if I recall correct. Maybe not. I'm not as old as I boast to be.
Werejaguar.Hawklight was the real OG, we had angels, demons and l33t wizards, even a guy who was somehow related to harateth.
Fantasy doesn't always have to include magical elements. To make something fantasy, it needs only have elements that are strange, foreign, or extreme. While magic seems to be popular, I tend to view this server more along the lines of a medieval RP server with fantasy elements. In many ways, it feels like a combination of LoTR racial elements and GoT political aspects. While Tolkien often had magic in his stories and so did GRRM, especially early in the first era and later in the third era with the wizards, they were never truly that important in the overarching themes for LoTR and so few people even have any abilities in GoT.I hate to bug you, but you understand this is a fansty server? I can't say that magic wasn't obligable for everybody at one point in time, since I only came here right before the Courroption ended.
I understand sometimes magic isn't the best thing to include in a server, since it is medival. I've seen some servers that don't allow magic, and for me, there terribly dull.
If magic is brought back to the masses, then the floodgate is opened, and putting the genie back in the bottle is difficult if not outright impossible. One simply needs to look at Legacy characters as an example of this. Despite changes in lore, those characters still exist.Even if introducting magic to the players will dive bomb and crash and burn, that doesn't mean the Staff can't re-work it and release it at a later date.
And in all honesty, if players can't handle magic, I vote back to the old system, where only two people know magic and it's hard to learn.
I could be entirely wrong. I could way off base with my response here as I am in no way an authority and I don't know anything about how it's going to be handled. However, I don't think this is going to be in any way an influx of world breaking magic. It will still need to be learned through a teacher, and I trust the staff and those they've selected not to give it to a player who cannot reliably RP its effects and use. I could be wrong, but I feel like it's not going in the direction of ages ago where every Bob, Joe, and Tom can bring meteor strikes down or whatnot. It'll still be a tightly monitored system, likely because of the newness.Please bare in mind that I'm merely disagreeing with you. Still like you IG, haha.
Fantasy doesn't always have to include magical elements. To make something fantasy, it needs only have elements that are strange, foreign, or extreme. While magic seems to be popular, I tend to view this server more along the lines of a medieval RP server with fantasy elements. In many ways, it feels like a combination of LoTR racial elements and GoT political aspects. While Tolkien often had magic in his stories and so did GRRM, especially early in the first era and later in the third era with the wizards, they were never truly that important in the overarching themes for LoTR and so few people even have any abilities in GoT.
Also, in many ways, the magic is more wielded by deities or in instances of extreme and dire needs, not day-to-day shenanigans.
Dull is a relative term. I know it's a slippery slope fallicy but it can't be helped: Magic being opened up slightly is only a hop, a skip, and a jump away from High Fantasy, which honestly is in the realms of WoW or other unrealistic and, oftentimes, broken worlds that don't make sense.
I often find fun in the mundane, and in manipulating existing current built-in power structures. Magic just provides a 'deus-ex-machina' for anything and everything, rendering most understandings of the world to be meaningless.
Example:
I don't want people entering a castle I built. Some magician develops a magic to either, jump over the walls, fly over the walls, teleport into the castle, or walk ethereally through the walls. It's game-breaking
If magic is brought back to the masses, then the floodgate is opened, and putting the genie back in the bottle is difficult if not outright impossible. One simply needs to look at Legacy characters as an example of this. Despite changes in lore, those characters still exist.
The Floata-Magna dream lives onSo does this mean I should stop working on Floata-Magna?
With two years of RPing under my belt, I think I can say having supernatural abilities that a regular man doesn't have, it would be hard to adjust the lore to keep it from being OP. And I don't need to be In-game to say that. Also, I never complained about these because they were part of the lore, magicwise, Iv'e had my character personally KO'd with a single thought by Cognition magic and captured, blown off the roof of a tavern, and completely stunned with no way to combat it.It's rather impossible to debate a system's power-level without being able to see it.
Cogitation, at least the original version, was built in mind to be at par, or in many cases far under, what martial characters could do in combat. Really the only reason people would want to go into it was for the flavor and the creative application of the spells. If you were wanting straight power, it would have been better to have fought with a sword instead. I had figured most magic schools were going to be like that...
Ugh, that was a thing wasn't it.
i dont doubt that this happend, all im going to say, is powergamingy things like that happened even without magicWith two years of RPing under my belt, I think I can say having supernatural abilities that a regular man doesn't have, it would be hard to adjust the lore to keep it from being OP. And I don't need to be In-game to say that. Also, I never complained about these because they were part of the lore, magicwise, Iv'e had my character personally KO'd with a single thought by Cognition magic and captured, blown off the roof of a tavern, and completely stunned with no way to combat it.
That ain't too bad. But I have heard of people having their legs snapped in half through thick walls, have a whole bandit Organization shut down by a mystic that could track their lifeforce throughout the NK. @BrianAT16 @ace134 @The Courier
Not saying it's impossible. But it will be really hard to create a balanced magic system.
well, to be fair about it; a good way to combat cogitation is to bring flour with youWith two years of RPing under my belt, I think I can say having supernatural abilities that a regular man doesn't have, it would be hard to adjust the lore to keep it from being OP. And I don't need to be In-game to say that. Also, I never complained about these because they were part of the lore, magicwise, Iv'e had my character personally KO'd with a single thought by Cognition magic and captured, blown off the roof of a tavern, and completely stunned with no way to combat it.
That ain't too bad. But I have heard of people having their legs snapped in half through thick walls, have a whole bandit Organization shut down by a mystic that could track their lifeforce throughout the NK. @BrianAT16 @ace134 @The Courier
Not saying it's impossible. But it will be really hard to create a balanced magic system.
this, its all a process of learning, just like how we are supposed to somehow deal with people in plate being op and able to just walk around like tanks, you have to ICly find ways around it, such as the armpits, or war hammers. you can probably find or buy enchanted robes/talisman to ruduece or void magical effects, in my opinion, the only reason people are getting upset is "my plate armour is no longer the most overpowered thing on the server" or its just a logical opinion on preferring to have a more historicly correct than fantasy server, which I'm fine withwell, to be fair about it; a good way to combat cogitation is to bring flower with you
Mysticism.. well. they're short ranged spellcasters, so long range is your ally.
Thaumaturgy.. well, you got to figure out what in the world their enchantments on their equipment are before you can try to take them on
Evokation, well as Immerael said; surprise attacks work on them
Please note that I said in the original version of cogitation. It was changed drastically after I took a break from the server. It's also completely possible those mages using such incredible versions of cogitation were entirely abusing the system, which was impossible for you to know due to the spell lists not being public, and I sympathize with you if that happens to be the case. If you'd like to see the original list I believe I have it stashed away on a google doc somewhere.With two years of RPing under my belt, I think I can say having supernatural abilities that a regular man doesn't have, it would be hard to adjust the lore to keep it from being OP. And I don't need to be In-game to say that. Also, I never complained about these because they were part of the lore, magicwise, Iv'e had my character personally KO'd with a single thought by Cognition magic and captured, blown off the roof of a tavern, and completely stunned with no way to combat it.
That ain't too bad. But I have heard of people having their legs snapped in half through thick walls, have a whole bandit Organization shut down by a mystic that could track their lifeforce throughout the NK. @BrianAT16 @ace134 @The Courier
Not saying it's impossible. But it will be really hard to create a balanced magic system.
No we're not, this is far from a low-fantasy server. Since when was HW EVER a low fantasy server? You have gods coming down and blessing lands or turning into dragons to burn down cities, people returning from the dead through a magical group of mages who worship a god of life, a god of life who moved so called ley-lines for her worshipers... Exodus's have immortal kings teleporting people from planet to planet to avoid a ravaging world destroying corruption.We are a Low-Fantasy server. Some people, myself included think the fantasy should end with the fantastical map and the extra races, while others think we should have more fantasy elements (magic, gods things, ext).
Well earthspawn and elves as well as demi-gods all have abilities outside the normal spectrum of human characteristics. Earthspawn because of immense strength, elves for their extremely extended life-span and demigods... Well I don't know what a demigod can do so yea.Human characterists are low fantasy as are human abilities, At least I think thats what he meant
Like we'd bring you back for comedic effect after I'd banned the crap out of you, ayyyyy- Ayyyyyyyy- Ayyyyyyyyyy-Can we bring back Vyres? If only for comedic effect