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MIDNIGHT562
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Microsoft Is Removing Xbox One DRM
This could be the biggest backtrack in gaming history: Microsoft will reverse course on their DRM policies for Xbox One, dropping their 24-hour Internet check-in requirement and all restrictions on used games.
Here's Microsoft president of interactive entertainment Don Mattrick with the news:
Since they revealed the Xbox One in May, Microsoft has faced non-stop criticism for announced policies that could drastically change the way we play games in the future. The Xbox One, they said, would require players to connect to the Internet once every 24 hours in order to keep the box playing games. You would have to activate each game by registering it on the web before playing. The console would also restrict the way that game discs are traded, borrowed, and shared, limiting the number of people who could own and play each game, and restricting trade-ins on a publisher-by-publisher basis.
Microsoft has justified these policies by saying that these moves are consistent with a shift to digital seen on Steam, iTunes and other digital platforms. However, in an interview with Kotaku last week, Microsoft's Phil Spencer admitted that the 24-hour Internet requirement was not a "selling point" for the Xbox One. He also said they had no plans for game-lending just yet.
By reversing on those policies, Microsoft calls a lot of things into question: what will become of the Xbox One's family sharing plan? Will publishers find other ways to block used games? And what of all the rhetoric of how "the bits"—the data on each game disc, rather than the discs themselves—are the future?
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310
The People Have Spoken!!!
USA!
USA!
USA!
This could be the biggest backtrack in gaming history: Microsoft will reverse course on their DRM policies for Xbox One, dropping their 24-hour Internet check-in requirement and all restrictions on used games.
Here's Microsoft president of interactive entertainment Don Mattrick with the news:
Last week at E3, the excitement, creativity and future of our industry was on display for a global audience.
For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.
You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:
An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.
These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.
Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
This comes after heavy criticism following an E3 in which Sony bragged about their own policies for the PS4, which Sony says will not restrict used games or require an Internet connection.For us, the future comes in the form of Xbox One, a system designed to be the best place to play games this year and for many years to come. As is our heritage with Xbox, we designed a system that could take full advantage of advances in technology in order to deliver a breakthrough in game play and entertainment. We imagined a new set of benefits such as easier roaming, family sharing, and new ways to try and buy games. We believe in the benefits of a connected, digital future.
Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One.
You told us how much you loved the flexibility you have today with games delivered on disc. The ability to lend, share, and resell these games at your discretion is of incredible importance to you. Also important to you is the freedom to play offline, for any length of time, anywhere in the world.
So, today I am announcing the following changes to Xbox One and how you can play, share, lend, and resell your games exactly as you do today on Xbox 360. Here is what that means:
An internet connection will not be required to play offline Xbox One games – After a one-time system set-up with a new Xbox One, you can play any disc based game without ever connecting online again. There is no 24 hour connection requirement and you can take your Xbox One anywhere you want and play your games, just like on Xbox 360.
Trade-in, lend, resell, gift, and rent disc based games just like you do today – There will be no limitations to using and sharing games, it will work just as it does today on Xbox 360.
In addition to buying a disc from a retailer, you can also download games from Xbox Live on day of release. If you choose to download your games, you will be able to play them offline just like you do today. Xbox One games will be playable on any Xbox One console — there will be no regional restrictions.
These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. Also, similar to today, playing disc based games will require that the disc be in the tray.
We appreciate your passion, support and willingness to challenge the assumptions of digital licensing and connectivity. While we believe that the majority of people will play games online and access the cloud for both games and entertainment, we will give consumers the choice of both physical and digital content. We have listened and we have heard loud and clear from your feedback that you want the best of both worlds.
Thank you again for your candid feedback. Our team remains committed to listening, taking feedback and delivering a great product for you later this year.
Since they revealed the Xbox One in May, Microsoft has faced non-stop criticism for announced policies that could drastically change the way we play games in the future. The Xbox One, they said, would require players to connect to the Internet once every 24 hours in order to keep the box playing games. You would have to activate each game by registering it on the web before playing. The console would also restrict the way that game discs are traded, borrowed, and shared, limiting the number of people who could own and play each game, and restricting trade-ins on a publisher-by-publisher basis.
Microsoft has justified these policies by saying that these moves are consistent with a shift to digital seen on Steam, iTunes and other digital platforms. However, in an interview with Kotaku last week, Microsoft's Phil Spencer admitted that the 24-hour Internet requirement was not a "selling point" for the Xbox One. He also said they had no plans for game-lending just yet.
By reversing on those policies, Microsoft calls a lot of things into question: what will become of the Xbox One's family sharing plan? Will publishers find other ways to block used games? And what of all the rhetoric of how "the bits"—the data on each game disc, rather than the discs themselves—are the future?
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-is-removing-xbox-one-drm-514390310
The People Have Spoken!!!
USA!
USA!
USA!
MIDNIGHT562
Loyal Servant of Altera
I agree with some of the reasons behind the DRM, but Microsoft's over all strategy regarding the Xbox One really rubbed me the wrong way. Hats off to Sony for for not jumping on the bandwagon, and a nod to Microsoft for reversing their policy, even if it caused them internal bleeding to do so.
I guess all those rage filled youtube vids actually can make a difference. I thought for sure MS was going to take a too big to listen stance. Regardless of them relenting and doing the right thing, their going to be walking around with a black eye over this one for quite a while.
I guess all those rage filled youtube vids actually can make a difference. I thought for sure MS was going to take a too big to listen stance. Regardless of them relenting and doing the right thing, their going to be walking around with a black eye over this one for quite a while.
FrostGuardian
Legend
Valcust
Lord of Altera
....A whole new world~!
A new fantastic point of view~!!
No one to tell us no or where to go~!!!
Or say we're only dreaming~!
A whole new world~!
A dazzling place I never knew~!
But when I'm way up here, it's crystal clear~!
That now I'm in a whole new world with you~!!
Now I'm in a whole new world with you~!
*rides along the magic carpet into the heavens*
ALL MY YES.
WE DID IT.
SCREW YOU MICROSOFT, TAKE MY MONEY~!
A new fantastic point of view~!!
No one to tell us no or where to go~!!!
Or say we're only dreaming~!
A whole new world~!
A dazzling place I never knew~!
But when I'm way up here, it's crystal clear~!
That now I'm in a whole new world with you~!!
Now I'm in a whole new world with you~!
*rides along the magic carpet into the heavens*
ALL MY YES.
WE DID IT.
SCREW YOU MICROSOFT, TAKE MY MONEY~!
D
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The only thing that bothered me about the Xbox One was people's reaction to it. How often does one's friend ask to borrow one of your games? Not very often. Only real thing troublesome was the 24 hour check.
I'm not referring directly to anyone around here but, people acting they have a PhD in gaming... how pretentious.
Calling it the "Xbone" is also annoying, at least for me.
No-one should place so much trust in the private sector: they're there for money, and they get the money. Usually one way or another. I will be very surprised if the Xbox One doesn't sell well anyway. It's all redundant now, anyway.
I'm not referring directly to anyone around here but, people acting they have a PhD in gaming... how pretentious.
Calling it the "Xbone" is also annoying, at least for me.
No-one should place so much trust in the private sector: they're there for money, and they get the money. Usually one way or another. I will be very surprised if the Xbox One doesn't sell well anyway. It's all redundant now, anyway.
MIDNIGHT562
Loyal Servant of Altera
Aaaahhhh......I do have a PhD in Gaming. 
What I find troubling is now that MS gave in to what appeared to be public consensus, people are criticizing them on the web for being weak or doing a 180.....what the hell do people want?
I personally am in the Xbox camp. Since I've had the last two consoles (*), nothing against Play Station. Now that they have given in they are definitely back in the forefront for my money. Although more details may come out in the time between now and November which could swing my purchase either way.
(*) I've had 2 of the original Xbox, 4 Xbox 360, 1 PS2 and a Wii. Why so many, cause my ex-wife took one one each Xbox and Xbox 360, followed by my live in girl friend at a later date taking an Xbox 360 and PS2. At which point I was quite poor and not being able to afford any more replacements or a new PC, so subsisted on a used original Xbox and a ton of inexpensive games. Overtime my fortunes improved, slightly. I would have taken a PS3 over the Wii any day, but I got out voted at the time.
What I find troubling is now that MS gave in to what appeared to be public consensus, people are criticizing them on the web for being weak or doing a 180.....what the hell do people want?
I personally am in the Xbox camp. Since I've had the last two consoles (*), nothing against Play Station. Now that they have given in they are definitely back in the forefront for my money. Although more details may come out in the time between now and November which could swing my purchase either way.
(*) I've had 2 of the original Xbox, 4 Xbox 360, 1 PS2 and a Wii. Why so many, cause my ex-wife took one one each Xbox and Xbox 360, followed by my live in girl friend at a later date taking an Xbox 360 and PS2. At which point I was quite poor and not being able to afford any more replacements or a new PC, so subsisted on a used original Xbox and a ton of inexpensive games. Overtime my fortunes improved, slightly. I would have taken a PS3 over the Wii any day, but I got out voted at the time.
I've never been a fan of Xbox. Having to pay $12 per month on top of the cost of the console and paying for media services is ridiculous. PSN, though it'll be charging for use in the next iteration, will still allow access to media services (e.g. Netflix) without paying additional fees, as well as being cheaper than Live and it gives out free games.
MIDNIGHT562
Loyal Servant of Altera
I pay less then $4.25 a month for xbox live gold. Sure I rather have free, but you get what you pay for. I believe that overall Xbox live cost is compensated with a better multiplayer features and servers. With the advent of playstation network plus, you'll likely see a significant improvement of your multiplayer experience.
Aerodactylus
I think I might like it here
The thing I was most pissed about concerning DRM was that Microsoft even believed people would go for that. DRM on physical copies of games means that you're no longer the sole owner of the product, you're just renting it. It's a gross money grabbing policy on the part of MS, and I'm so happy that people realized they could change it if they got angry enough.
I'm still upset about the new Kinect being a camera instead of a sensor, though. The possibility that they could charge you extra for watching media with more than a certain predetermined number of people in the room, not to mention that they could SPY ON YOU with that technology, gives me a serious case of the willies. It's creepy and frankly disgusting.
I was solidly an Xbox man this generation, but the fact that MS has abandoned any semblance of trying to please their primarily gaming consumer base in favor of gross capitalist money making schemes has converted me to the Sony camp. I was PS2 last generation and now I feel like I should never have left; the only reason I never got a PS3 was because it was so overpriced at first. Now that the PS4 will be significantly cheaper than the One, I know where my money's going.
I'm still upset about the new Kinect being a camera instead of a sensor, though. The possibility that they could charge you extra for watching media with more than a certain predetermined number of people in the room, not to mention that they could SPY ON YOU with that technology, gives me a serious case of the willies. It's creepy and frankly disgusting.
I was solidly an Xbox man this generation, but the fact that MS has abandoned any semblance of trying to please their primarily gaming consumer base in favor of gross capitalist money making schemes has converted me to the Sony camp. I was PS2 last generation and now I feel like I should never have left; the only reason I never got a PS3 was because it was so overpriced at first. Now that the PS4 will be significantly cheaper than the One, I know where my money's going.
MIDNIGHT562
Loyal Servant of Altera
Valcust
Lord of Altera
Priorities~
WiiU, because I'll be damned if I don't play Pickmen 3 for the rest of my days. Cuteness > 'Splosions
Ps4, Sony honestly deserves my business before microsoft does, but besides that, there haven't been many games that've wowed me on this system, much like it's predecessor.
Xbox One, Because titanfall, mechs, battlefield 4 at 60fps 60 players...Erm, goin' to wait a bit on this one, though, because if microsoft tries to pull any more shifty business, I don't want to be caught in the middle..
WiiU, because I'll be damned if I don't play Pickmen 3 for the rest of my days. Cuteness > 'Splosions
Ps4, Sony honestly deserves my business before microsoft does, but besides that, there haven't been many games that've wowed me on this system, much like it's predecessor.
Xbox One, Because titanfall, mechs, battlefield 4 at 60fps 60 players...Erm, goin' to wait a bit on this one, though, because if microsoft tries to pull any more shifty business, I don't want to be caught in the middle..
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I look forward to Fallout 4 more than any new consoles.
Valcust
Lord of Altera
MIDNIGHT562
Loyal Servant of Altera
"As we move into an era of distributed computing power, it's no wonder that the next-gen consoles want to capitalize on the power of the cloud. Microsoft has claimed that developers will be able to harness three times the power of a single Xbox One, thereby bringing extra oomph to physics and AI processing (although some developers wonder whether latency will ever allow such time-sensitive game elements to be offloaded in this way). We're also promised vast persistent online worlds that evolve as play continues."
I remain skeptical, too much variation in peoples internet connections to reliably supplement the processing power of the console.
"Forza Motorsports is even offering a Drivatar, an AI bot that learns your skills and tactics then goes off and represents you in online bouts. There are doubts about the veracity of Microsoft's claims, though, with latency and bandwidth issues likely to make things difficult"
I'm not a big racer but when I do play Forza I driver every race like I'm in a Roman chariot race. That and I spin out a lot, so beware my Drivatar!!
I remain skeptical, too much variation in peoples internet connections to reliably supplement the processing power of the console.
"Forza Motorsports is even offering a Drivatar, an AI bot that learns your skills and tactics then goes off and represents you in online bouts. There are doubts about the veracity of Microsoft's claims, though, with latency and bandwidth issues likely to make things difficult"
I'm not a big racer but when I do play Forza I driver every race like I'm in a Roman chariot race. That and I spin out a lot, so beware my Drivatar!!
