even without House Saeradan, that forest is the homeland of the Forest Elves.
if Marr not want Desert then the desert is Hammerfell
and Hammerfell was just me making up a name to excuse the fact that I really dont think anyone wants that desert except the desert people, and Engem shouldn't claim it unless theres a good cultural reason to do so.
"The Poor Farmers" was me... trying to figure out who would live in an area which I strongly believe should remain wilderness. it's the Warcamp have some respect.
it is true that the Engem have claimed protection over the caparii, so... yeah whatever those forests are taken to barbarianism I guess
my whole point there was that the nothern jungle (that has the temple of Shalherana) should not be claimed by House Senatoor, because who knows how many caparii and forsts elves might be invisibly living the the depths of that forest. maybe no characters making a caparii village town, but still. they have to be living somewhere in the Northern Kingdoms, and that jungle is the best bet.
and for the record, what I said using Falandraal as an example shouldn't be taken seriously, and I think I take it back. I don't own Falandraal, and though Falandraal is in the midst of Senatoor territory (even then, not with my edit), the truth of the matter is, that the founders of Falandraal have been at odds with the head of House Senatoor ever since he attacked Lydel. I do not expect House Hansdotter to actually swear allegiance to Senatoor, ever.