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Tywin_Lannister

Lord of Casterly Rock
Far as I can see.....both sides are pretty chill with whats happening? *leaves thread Idontevenknowhatishappeninganymore*
Everyone was completely fine with what happened and accepted it, but now since Dogbew didn't rp his thoughts, or minuet actions, and now that Sally misunderstood that Wolfstadt was a violent region, which it is not, and has never been. Dogbew was given a 4 week temp ban.
 

SallyPirate

Lord of Altera
... I said he didn't RP any actions, I don't care about RPing thoughts because I don't like RPing thoughts either. The matter of the fact is that Yorrick Rp'd absolutely everything he had to to get inside the prison and bust Marcus out, but on the contrary, I see nothing but metagaming from Dogbew. Assuming instantly that Yorrick was the one that broke him out without even studying the cell door. I doubt one quick glance would say "This looks like a dwarf did it!"

Things HAVE to be RP'd out, because I'm not taking someones word over someone elses, it's hawkeye I'll listen to
 

Jayo

Loyal Servant of Altera
I don't know if I'm wrong, But I think if the region owner grants permission of the action, Then you can do it.
 

Kyle1322

Lord of Altera
but it does not make sense why bans were given out rather then bringing the two parties together and talking about this instead of just *BANHAMMER*. it could have been sorted by now and time would just go on.....:/
 

Spark

Broken
but it does not make sense why bans were given out rather then bringing the two parties together and talking about this instead of just *BANHAMMER*. it could have been sorted by now and time would just go on.....:/
No, it makes perfect sense, just not logical sense.
 

SallyPirate

Lord of Altera
They are tempbans, and it was because of the amount of meta gaming that went into this. If it wasn't so severe then warnings and the RP void would've simply happened.
 

Tybalt

Lord of Altera
... I said he didn't RP any actions, I don't care about RPing thoughts because I don't like RPing thoughts either. The matter of the fact is that Yorrick Rp'd absolutely everything he had to to get inside the prison and bust Marcus out, but on the contrary, I see nothing but metagaming from Dogbew. Assuming instantly that Yorrick was the one that broke him out without even studying the cell door. I doubt one quick glance would say "This looks like a dwarf did it!"

Things HAVE to be RP'd out, because I'm not taking someones word over someone elses, it's hawkeye I'll listen to
I believe someone said last night. That Yorrick and one of the Wolfstadt's members had a chat. And told Yorrick ICly that if Marcus was broke loose, the blame is pinned on him.

Same way Tybalt told the Van Strauss Guards that if something happened to Ergon, the blame will be pinned on them.
 

Kyle1322

Lord of Altera
another thing that is just plain stupid In my opinion, is that a /dwarf/ was able to bend [even with a weapon] super thick durable steel bars.

I get called out when I cant even bash down a wooden door with my foot or shoulder, but someone can just bend steel bars because superman.
 

SallyPirate

Lord of Altera
I believe someone said last night. That Yorrick and one of the Wolfstadt's members had a chat. And told Yorrick ICly that if Marcus was broke loose, the blame is pinned on him.

Same way Tybalt told the Van Strauss Guards that if something happened to Ergon, the blame will be pinned on them.
The guard that warned him of such hadn't spoken to anyone else, and would've been the only one to know that IF marcus broke out, then Yorrick was the primary suspect. If the guard had told other guards/people about Yorrick's actions, then yeah, there probly wouldn't have been tempbans. That's why this all stinks of meta-gaming
 

Tybalt

Lord of Altera
I believe someone said last night. That Yorrick and one of the Wolfstadt's members had a chat. And told Yorrick ICly that if Marcus was broke loose, the blame is pinned on him.

Same way Tybalt told the Van Strauss Guards that if something happened to Ergon, the blame will be pinned on them.
Found it
Well if we actually need to check, that's not a problem, we can do that.

As for figuring out who helped him escape; I had a chat with Yorrick before the "escape" in which I said that if Marcus dissapeared from the prison, I would come after him... As he would be the only person NOT of the Wolfstadt Guard to know that Marcus Attilus was in the prison, and was getting very uppity and aggressive over it.

This leaves Yorrick Goldfist as the only suspect, and as far as Wolfstadt would be concerned ICly, that would be plenty to convict him.
That is all the IC info they need to assume.

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The guard that warned him of such hadn't spoken to anyone else, and would've been the only one to know that IF marcus broke out, then Yorrick was the primary suspect. If the guard had told other guards/people about Yorrick's actions, then yeah, there probly wouldn't have been tempbans. That's why this all stinks of meta-gaming
Page didnt refresh when i wrote this. But it is still safe to assume that guards know who is or isnt in their cells regardless?
 

FrostGuardian

Lord of Altera
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Very well, incrimination it is!

Highly unfeasible that, no matter how meticulously roleplayed out it was, that their escape would have been successful in the first place. Would it not be meta-gaming for them to plan their escape with the knowledge in mind that the the players that roleplay the guards are currently offline and wherefore would have a higher probability of success? Ridiculous to consider it to be, certainly, perhaps as ridiculous as such accusations of meta-gaming towards dogbew.
 

Ace19

Lord of Altera
Still dont see why Im banned for no knowing their 'meta'. .. and you know a messenger bird rule that doesnt exsist anywhere in the Rules
 

Kyle1322

Lord of Altera
Very well, incrimination it is!

Highly unfeasible that, no matter how meticulously roleplayed out it was, that their escape would have been successful in the first place. Would it not be meta-gaming for them to plan their escape with the knowledge in mind that the the players that roleplay the guards are currently offline and wherefore would have a higher probability of success? Ridiculous to consider it to be, certainly, perhaps as ridiculous as such accusations of meta-gaming towards dogbew.
*edgy telepathy is edgy*
 

Tybalt

Lord of Altera
Can we not argue about their escape? Both sides are okay with that in the first place. Its not even relevant to the bans
 

SallyPirate

Lord of Altera
Found it

That is all the IC info they need to assume.

EDIT:

Page didnt refresh when i wrote this. But it is still safe to assume that guards know who is or isnt in their cells regardless?
S'all good- I'm liking this chat :D

Basically the meta/power gaming rules (I can't quote it exactly but I know it's there) says that you can't use imaginary characters/alts/anything to find out information that you yourself would benefit from, so this one guard knew, but didn't tell anyone else, there's only one guy on the server that (maybe?) can read minds, and he wasn't anywhere in the area. So there was no way for anyone outside this 1 guard to suspect Yorrick did it.

Still dont see why Im banned for no knowing their 'meta'. .. and you know a messenger bird rule that doesnt exsist anywhere in the Rules
I already explained this to you, if you want to cherry pick reasons for your tempban I wont stop you, but it's not fair to anyone a part of this RP for you to cut out details and lie.
 

Ace19

Lord of Altera
What am I lying about. . .I emoted *Bird flutters away Rp Convinence* <---Or something very similiar, And I heard from people behind me in Rp, about wanted criminals.
 

Tybalt

Lord of Altera
S'all good- I'm liking this chat :D

Basically the meta/power gaming rules (I can't quote it exactly but I know it's there) says that you can't use imaginary characters/alts/anything to find out information that you yourself would benefit from, so this one guard knew, but didn't tell anyone else, there's only one guy on the server that (maybe?) can read minds, and he wasn't anywhere in the area. So there was no way for anyone outside this 1 guard to suspect Yorrick did it.


I already explained this to you, if you want to cherry pick reasons for your tempban I wont stop you, but it's not fair to anyone a part of this RP for you to cut out details and lie.
Aye. But i kow sometimes when I have a prisoner. I will leave a message in one of Marr's Skype chats. Telling the other guards there is a prisoner in the cells. Althio this is usually just to prompt them to RP with the prisoner if I am not able to get on. From every RP that I have witnessed at least involving prisoners, the entire guard of whatever faction it is is given a notice. Whether actually RP'ed or not. It's kind of like an unofficial Common knowledge rule among the guard.
 

FrostGuardian

Lord of Altera
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I recall one time when someone had attempted to burn down Stormhold when there was nigh unto no one online.

I also recall that it wasn't permitted to occur.
 
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