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^What was written. What I read, "I pledge my sword and my life to the betterment of the Realm!"My writers fingers/hands/wrists are yours if you need them. Like the others, my support is yours.
^What was written. What I read, "I pledge my sword and my life to the betterment of the Realm!"
Let me know what's going down and when!Mmmkay - I think I'll do a two-round public trial.
Let me guess, that's because of Neals funny/magical gauntlet right?Please call it "The Lore Gauntlet".
Not quite . .Let me guess, that's because of Neals funny/magical gauntlet right?
I think that's an opinion we're trying to avoid here. Seeing a Loremaster as some omnipotent being isn't healthy or true. They're just writers who want to writeThe Infinity gauntlet comes to mind, power over all things, physical and metaphysical. Basically the powers of an ultimate god. Much like a loremaster
True in one sense but in reality if the loremaster is not omnipotent how can they effectively create lore and develop the world? The loremaster as such has ultimate power in world creation. It is their job to be aware of ALL the information and adjust and develop where necessary (omnipotent). The lore master while playing IC needs to be able to step outside that skin into a more "human" role. Which @Naelwyn does quite well as far as I can tell.I think that's an opinion we're trying to avoid here. Seeing a Loremaster as some omnipotent being isn't healthy or true. They're just writers who want to write
I could be aware of every little facet of lore this server has yet that doesn't make me any more omniscient than they should be. Setting up a Loremaster as someone who is absolute and should be treated as "godlike" should be avoided. You create the very issues this thread was founded upon all over again. In-game, some people will react in the exact way that has been mentioned multiple times throughout the course of this thread. Conversations that shame the Loremasters for being these godlike beings will soon arise if that is how we intend to set them up. Players will undoubtedly complain about how a Loremaster has too much power and their abusing their positions etc. While I'd like to think that kind of situation wouldn't happen in reality it will always happen.True in one sense but in reality if the loremaster is not omnipotent how can they effectively create lore and develop the world? The loremaster as such has ultimate power in world creation. It is their job to be aware of ALL the information (omnipotent) and adjust and develop where necessary. The lore master while playing IC needs to be able to step outside that skin into a more "human" role. Which @Naelwyn does quite well as far as I can tell.
I would say the whole reason this thread exists has nothing to do with the loremasters ability to keep the two identities seperate. I believe the problem lies in the player base having trouble recognizing the distinction. As well as not appreciating that our current amazing loremaster goes to great lengths to keep his RP clean of OP or meta influence.
Ultimately the loremaster has the final say in how the world turns, while his character has very little of that knowledge or power. If people view the LM as all powerful and "godlike" I believe they might have more respect for the position. Instead of seeing the LM as just another player or staff with extra powers than they have.
In fact I would suggest that in my opinion the loremaster could stand to have a singular face, much like the staff face of Morgan freeman. That would help to seperate the IC persona from the one that makes the lore. And if I have a vote, I would suggest Dr. Strange as the face. Only because he is one of my all time favorite comic characters. As a second vote I would choose Spider Jerusalen from Transmetropolitan, being as he is a writer who likes to write
*mentally changes every instance of "omnipotent" to "omniscient"* Ah~True in one sense but in reality if the loremaster is not omnipotent how can they effectively create lore and develop the world? The loremaster as such has ultimate power in world creation. It is their job to be aware of ALL the information (omnipotent) and adjust and develop where necessary. The lore master while playing IC needs to be able to step outside that skin into a more "human" role. Which @Naelwyn does quite well as far as I can tell.
I would say the whole reason this thread exists has nothing to do with the loremasters ability to keep the two identities seperate. I believe the problem lies in the player base having trouble recognizing the distinction. As well as not appreciating that our current amazing loremaster goes to great lengths to keep his RP clean of OP or meta influence.
Ultimately the loremaster has the final say in how the world turns, while his character has very little of that knowledge or power. If people view the LM as all powerful and "godlike" I believe they might have more respect for the position. Instead of seeing the LM as just another player or staff with extra powers than they have.
In fact I would suggest that in my opinion the loremaster could stand to have a singular face, much like the staff face of Morgan freeman. That would help to seperate the IC persona from the one that makes the lore. And if I have a vote, I would suggest Dr. Strange as the face. Only because he is one of my all time favorite comic characters. As a second vote I would choose Spider Jerusalen from Transmetropolitan, being as he is a writer who likes to write
No you're not. Shhh. There's quite a lot of the lore that hasn't been released, you nut.I could be aware of every little facet of lore this server has yet that doesn't make me any more omnipotent than they should be. Setting up a Loremaster as someone who is absolute and should be treated as "godlike" should be avoided. You create the very issues this thread was founded upon all over again. In-game, some people will react in the exact way that has been mentioned multiple times throughout the course of this thread. Conversations that shame the Loremasters for being these godlike beings will soon arise if that is how we intend to set them up. Players will undoubtedly complain about how a Loremaster has too much power and their abusing their positions etc. While I'd like to think that kind of situation wouldn't happen in reality it will always happen.
Separation from OOC and IC is extremely crucial to any roleplay, I agree with you on that. But again, some players find it difficult to find that line so they will immediately assume that any Loremaster character is some insanely powerful being that is untouchable. A Loremaster should be approachable, not set up as a guy/girl with absolute authority. Being open to suggestions is key, and players shouldn't feel afraid to put forward their opinions to a Loremaster which they would if we go around saying our Loremasters are the Gods of the server.
Loremasters shouldn't be afraid to show themselves in RP as their own character, that's all I'm saying, and setting them up as omnipotent beings is just ugh.
I said I could not I did :3No you're not. Shhh. There's quite a lot of the lore that hasn't been released, you nut.
I think I understand your thought process and I can appreciate where you are coming from. My stance is not so different from yours though I refuse to believe that this community is incapable of being mature enough not to make a distinction between two distinct entities ie: player/character vs. LoremasterI could be aware of every little facet of lore this server has yet that doesn't make me any more omnipotent than they should be. Setting up a Loremaster as someone who is absolute and should be treated as "godlike" should be avoided. You create the very issues this thread was founded upon all over again. In-game, some people will react in the exact way that has been mentioned multiple times throughout the course of this thread. Conversations that shame the Loremasters for being these godlike beings will soon arise if that is how we intend to set them up. Players will undoubtedly complain about how a Loremaster has too much power and their abusing their positions etc. While I'd like to think that kind of situation wouldn't happen in reality it will always happen.
Separation from OOC and IC is extremely crucial to any roleplay, I agree with you on that. But again, some players find it difficult to find that line so they will immediately assume that any Loremaster character is some insanely powerful being that is untouchable. A Loremaster should be approachable, not set up as a guy/girl with absolute authority. Being open to suggestions is key, and players shouldn't feel afraid to put forward their opinions to a Loremaster which they would if we go around saying our Loremasters are the Gods of the server.
Loremasters shouldn't be afraid to show themselves in RP as their own character, that's all I'm saying, and setting them up as omnipotent beings is just ugh.
Don't change those mentally m'dear, actually I meant omnipotent, all powerful, in this sense of creating or destroying races, magic, gods and goddesses. The last word on what goes and doesn't go is pretty omnipotent. Loremasters don't just know, they effect changes.*mentally changes every instance of "omnipotent" to "omniscient"* Ah~