MRPolo13
The Arbiter of the Gods
I kind of disagree and agree. As kind of mentioned, but not properly, daggers can be used effectively as left-handed weapons (and I say left-handed, because no one used their left hand as their main hand in Medieval times. They were taught not to). Parrying daggers became especially popular alongside rapiers and were happily applied instead of shields (or even sometimes alongside them). Parrying dagger, while not great for bashing, is actually a good cutting weapon and definitely a better thing to have when you have your opponent in a sword lock.
Also, there were some treatises which showed duels which applied two swords... But they're duels, from time period where duels may have been as much for recreational purposes as for killing someone. I don't really like to think that twin swords were used.
As for spinning, in certain forms of fencing, such as Polish sabre, pirouettes were an important part of one's defence and attack. Fighters would spin about, throwing their sabre behind them in a block, and then counter with a powerful blow. Alongside this, polearms could have been spun about to confuse the opponent and as a form of psychological weapon (and they can be such. People rarely take into consideration the psychological factor when fighting).
). Perhaps I'm personally not qualified to comment on certain techniques applied, but people I use as reference definitely are.
On top of that, never, ever pull the "fantasy" card. Fantasy does not neglect the requirement for practicality, and if someone uses an arming sword, they will by hell use it like an arming sword, because mankind would have the time to spend on figuring out the ways in which they could make their moves the best and most practical.
As a matter of fact, I'll say that RP fighting with melee weapons is impossible. To give an example; in Polish sabre (which Renatan sabre is based off), you'd be delivering blows in an almost constant stream of movement. In comparison to that, the use of a bastard sword would be all about false strikes and rarely actually moving at the opponent. In my opinion a bastard sword would stand no chance against a well trained user of the sabre in an unarmoured fight, simply because the speed is so great the bastard sword user is unable to parry properly. DnD rules would ignore that, of course.
Also, there were some treatises which showed duels which applied two swords... But they're duels, from time period where duels may have been as much for recreational purposes as for killing someone. I don't really like to think that twin swords were used.
As for spinning, in certain forms of fencing, such as Polish sabre, pirouettes were an important part of one's defence and attack. Fighters would spin about, throwing their sabre behind them in a block, and then counter with a powerful blow. Alongside this, polearms could have been spun about to confuse the opponent and as a form of psychological weapon (and they can be such. People rarely take into consideration the psychological factor when fighting).
I practice re-enactment and normal sports-fencing. These are the only two facilities available to me, but I try to take away as much from them both as possible. On top of that, whatever I say I try to support with valid sources, especially HEMA trainers and professional historians, as well as occasional treatises (I'd love to be able to read Renaissance German or Italian, but I can only look at the picturesLook, we're in what's called a medieval FANTASY world. If someone does a spin attack, just role with it. . . But be reasonable. The fantasy part of the classification applies to more than just our setting. And honestly, absolutely nobody here is qualified to know just what would happen when certain techniques are used.
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On top of that, never, ever pull the "fantasy" card. Fantasy does not neglect the requirement for practicality, and if someone uses an arming sword, they will by hell use it like an arming sword, because mankind would have the time to spend on figuring out the ways in which they could make their moves the best and most practical.
Hahah.. No. I prefer those texts than a badly flawed fighting system of DnD which takes literally no variables into consideration (although it's still better than roll d20 system currently applied by some people).Personally, I'm going to do my best to avoid RP fights at all costs until there is some form of DnD system in place where people's skill level cannot be lied about and the combat mechanics are all roles based on that skill. Until then, we will have these text walls faffing about on what you can and cannot do in a fight/ what you should and should not do. It gets more convoluted every time I read about it.
As a matter of fact, I'll say that RP fighting with melee weapons is impossible. To give an example; in Polish sabre (which Renatan sabre is based off), you'd be delivering blows in an almost constant stream of movement. In comparison to that, the use of a bastard sword would be all about false strikes and rarely actually moving at the opponent. In my opinion a bastard sword would stand no chance against a well trained user of the sabre in an unarmoured fight, simply because the speed is so great the bastard sword user is unable to parry properly. DnD rules would ignore that, of course.