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[kaiser_harding]

[Autotomy] A Biter is able to remove a limb, digit, or any part of their body without permanent damage, leaving an ache and great discomfort at the point it was separated.. It does not bleed, and neither does it rot. They may then reattach it at will, but the ache remains for the rest of the day. If the Biter's torso is destroyed such that there is nothing for their limbs to reattach to, they can choose to just die and not have to live out the rest of their lives as blind bits.


How does this ability affect clothing. For example if they use this ability to remove their arm, does the clothing go with it to be reattached later, or would the vyre then need to pull the arm out of the shirt sleeve?

 

[blargtheawesome]

i know that for sunblessed in the old system, being deprived of light/flame would be fatal if it went on for over a week. Is this still the case? Or do they become essentially become living statues if, in an extreme case, they're stuck like that for long amounts of time?

Probably, but on a much longer timescale than pre-rework. If someone wants to try it, they can make a research ticket.

Does this move the blessing of a character as well into the new host body?

Can they also change genders?

Yes, and yes.

In addition, does this account for vyres that have been deliberately made to go down in a chain of vyres by the same person, or must the vyre directly spread his or her own blood every time in order to rank up?

It's just how many people that they turned. One person infecting two; one person infecting one who also infects one; infecting three yourself, etc. It you spread it to one person who then spreads it to eight, then that works for getting to Consumed. If you infect four who each infact one, that also works, etc.

Another thing, would they go through a normal revival through this? Or is it the same as before, wherein they would be reinstated to their previous position in their chain?

A normal revival, whether that's the current Jishrim thing or if revival changes in the future. Whatever the default option is, or an alternative special one they have available like arcane revival. They don't revive as Vyres. They lose their place in the heirarchy and would have to start over again.

Maybe I’m reading this wrong, but the cause of infection for Lovers is to either fall in love with or absolutely despise another Lover? If so, doesn’t that require an original Lover for more to be infected by? How does the ‘first’ Lover come about?

You don't need to have another player to become a Vyre. There will be Vyre NPCs, and we considered stuff like Skraag servants spreading it beyond the normal considerations. But uh, yeah if you want to be infected by another player and there's no active Lover characters, you'd have to consider an alternate route.

As far as how a 'first lover' could arise, uh, I expect at least some people will pick it in grandfathering. I have plans to make a character into a Lover once the rework is fully out, for example.

Does the T4 Shalherana spell, Purification, have any effect on Vyres?

I think that this curse is beyond the scope of that spell - no effect. It's a curse on the soul, and the effects on the body are a side effect of that.

Do mutations carry onto a new host body if a vyre is re-animated?

As in mutations such as Bok'ra's moth arms, compound eye.. etc

Specific blessings/curses will carry over, but generic stuff like that wouldn't. Maybe we'll change this decision in the future, but for now go with that.

im gonna be asking all the sunblessed lore, sorry about that tirdfgj

For sunblessed, are their eyes and hair also bronze? it says skin, but am I safe to assume that eyes and hair look and function normally during the lifespan of the sunblessed?

Yep, just the skin changes.

are the rankings under each bloodline the same as Fledgling Enthralled and consumed? or something else?


| G R E Y |
The Grey bloodline originates with one of the original five. Members of the Grey bloodline develop patches of scales over their skin, have needle-like teeth, and tend towards baldness or balding.

[ BOON ] Greys may willingly put themselves into a state of starvation - with the resulting desperation to feed - while at the same time oozing blood over their skin that immediately hardens to be equivalent to iron scalemail.
[ BANE ] Greys are inherently paranoid and distrustful of others, feeling they must always rely only on themselves.
Ratlings:
3. The members of the chain make no sound as they move, no matter their speed or terrain.
6. If the members of the chain are in an environment for at least one hour, their body and clothes naturally begin to take on the pigment and coloration of that environment.
9. The members of the chain have no reflection.

This works based on chain. So for the "3" effect, you want to be apart of a Sire > Sire > Sire chain of Vyres in this bloodline.

 

[blargtheawesome]

SPIRITBLESSED || Spiritblessed cannot be Vyres at the same time. Both effects latch onto the soul (anima) of a person, and so both inhabit the same conceptual space. Vyre curse wins out, so if someone who is currently Spiritblessed wants to become a Vyre, they will be forcibly unbound from their elemental per that process detailed in Spiritblessed lore.

-> So in the case of a grandfathered Consumed Spiritblessed Vyre hybrid, would sticking with Vyrism have the same result as a Consumed Spiritblessed becoming a Vyre? In other words, a Consumed-tier Unbinding?

Unless events wants to make an exception for the grandfathering, yeah.

[Autotomy] A Biter is able to remove a limb, digit, or any part of their body without permanent damage, leaving an ache and great discomfort at the point it was separated.. It does not bleed, and neither does it rot. They may then reattach it at will, but the ache remains for the rest of the day. If the Biter's torso is destroyed such that there is nothing for their limbs to reattach to, they can choose to just die and not have to live out the rest of their lives as blind bits.


How does this ability affect clothing. For example if they use this ability to remove their arm, does the clothing go with it to be reattached later, or would the vyre then need to pull the arm out of the shirt sleeve?

The curse doesn't affect clothes, so if they're wearing a onesie with attached gloves they'd have a hard time using this ability, yeah.

 

[Galaxy]

i have another .... it is very minor ... does sunblessed skin oxidize like bronze normally does? (truly my questions know no bounds)

like this

 

[blargtheawesome]

i have another .... it is very minor ... does sunblessed skin oxidize like bronze normally does? (truly my questions know no bounds)
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like this

Yes, they have to periodically clean it off like how normal people bathe.

(we can have lady liberty statue people going around)

 

[Retro]

[Enthrall] The Vyre targets another of their kind, feeding on them and then allowing their target to feed on the user in turn. This may only be used on another Vyre. The Vyre using this ability must be of higher rank than the Vyre they are targetting (i.e. Consumed vs Enthralled, or Enthralled vs Fledgling). This ability converts the Vyre that is being targetted into the user's bloodline, making the target their progeny, and the user their sire. The target's old sire is no longer their sire for mechanical purposes.

Does this imply that they target another noble(of their kind) or it can be done regardless of vyre type?

 

[Mudpaw11]

I have a few questions so I'll throw them in here as I remember what they are,

={Lovers}=

"Lovers are infatuated with their own image in the mirror."

What if your character can't have a proper reflection, ex. Greyline's chain of 9 "The members of the chain have no reflection." or via other means like curses that corrupt them.

={Nobles}=

Nobles of this rank cannot stand the touch of pure salt, silver, or gold

I'm assuming the burning can still be felt through like gloves?
Jaxite question time, are Jax Touch and Transmute both counting as pure gold? Or is like, divine/Jax gold different.

Spoiler: Spells

JAX’S TOUCH
Divine: Jax.
Tier: 1
Action: Prayer and Touch.
Cost: 2SP
Duration: Permanent.
Spell: The caster may touch any object up to the size of a tankard to coat it in a layer of gold. Can be used on flesh but the gold will flake off and leave them with a brief ache. This does not turn the entire object into gold, though it could be melted down.

TRANSMUTE
Divine: Jax.
Tier: 3
Action: Prayer, and the physical touch on the item for a minute as it slowly transmutes under their hand over the span of 5-10 minutes depending on size.
Cost: 4SP
Duration: Permanent.
Spell: The caster can transmute items of little value into items made of solid gold, limited to the size of the average helmet or less. They may also change pearls into diamonds, rubies, emeralds, or sapphires.

 

[blargtheawesome]

[Enthrall] The Vyre targets another of their kind, feeding on them and then allowing their target to feed on the user in turn. This may only be used on another Vyre. The Vyre using this ability must be of higher rank than the Vyre they are targetting (i.e. Consumed vs Enthralled, or Enthralled vs Fledgling). This ability converts the Vyre that is being targetted into the user's bloodline, making the target their progeny, and the user their sire. The target's old sire is no longer their sire for mechanical purposes.

Does this imply that they target another noble(of their kind) or it can be done regardless of vyre type?

Bloodlines aren't restricted by Vyre type. You can have all four types of Vyre in a bloodline. All Enthrall abilities can target all other types of Vyres.

 

[blargtheawesome]

I have a few questions so I'll throw them in here as I remember what they are,

={Lovers}=

What if your character can't have a proper reflection, ex. Greyline's chain of 9 "The members of the chain have no reflection." or via other means like curses that corrupt them.

However you want to flavor why your character is staring at the reflection is fine, as a general rule. It's not a, "I'm so hot, wow." It can be a, "I am disgusted by the monster I have become." With that said, they would still be fascinated by the lack of reflection from themselves -

={Nobles}=

I'm assuming the burning can still be felt through like gloves?
Jaxite question time, are Jax Touch and Transmute both counting as pure gold? Or is like, divine/Jax gold different.

It probably can't be felt through gloves, and divine/Jax gold is the same as mundane gold.

 

[Retro]

Can a vyre that is a certain type (i.e: feral) transition into a different vyre type?

 

[Mudpaw11]

Another Lovers question!

For the [Love] turning process, is it immediate? Like if Lover vyre already are with someone are they just instantly turned? Is there anyway to prevent it? If you break up to try and prevent it but still both have feelings for each other is it kinda like your screwed?
And then I suppose a follow up is like, even though I know it's up to the players, where does it fall on the spectrum of like
"I'm dating this person because I have feelings for them" <----------------------------------------------------------------> "I would die for this person"

Edit: For the shapeshifting ability, could a silver elf change their appearance into a forest elf since they're both elves or can they only change their appearance within their subrace ex. a silver elf can only make themself look like a different silver elf

 

[blargtheawesome]

Can a vyre that is a certain type (i.e: feral) transition into a different vyre type?

Right now - no. I remember we used to have a provision for this in an earlier draft, but I don't remember why it was cut. If I can't remember the reason, I'll probably remember to add it back in eventually.

Another Lovers question!

For the [Love] turning process, is it immediate? Like if Lover vyre already are with someone are they just instantly turned? Is there anyway to prevent it? If you break up to try and prevent it but still both have feelings for each other is it kinda like your screwed?
And then I suppose a follow up is like, even though I know it's up to the players, where does it fall on the spectrum of like
"I'm dating this person because I have feelings for them" <----------------------------------------------------------------> "I would die for this person"

I recommend as dramatic of a definition of "love" for the purposes of changing as possible. "I like you, and may be interested in you as my SO forever" probably not being love in this instance. But, it's explicitly up to the player in question. They are turned from the moment that they pass whatever arbitrary threshold the player deems, also ideally in as soap opera-worthy of a way as possible.

Edit: For the shapeshifting ability, could a silver elf change their appearance into a forest elf since they're both elves or can they only change their appearance within their subrace ex. a silver elf can only make themself look like a different silver elf

Yes.

 

[Kostadim]

ACOLYTE OF UNDEATH
Divine: Skraag.
Tier: 3
Action: Ten minutes of ritual prayer with blood anointed upon the target, with one hour of maintained contact.
Cost: 6SP
Duration: Permanent until the links are broken.
Spell: The caster imparts upon their target a physical stasis, a band of dark green marking around each wrist like tattooing. So long as both these links are unbroken, their body will never age nor grow, remaining as it was upon the spell being cast. It also will never heal, and any wounds sustained must be healed through magical means or [UNHALLOWED FLESH]. They are also immune to all mortal diseases and ailments, as their body is in effect dead and they are suspended simply through the will of themselves and their god. They are classed as a Lich, a state of undeath but not a type easily removed from spells of other deities.
Note: The spell is broken if the links are, and they can be cut through by simply cutting into the flesh over the band, or even the more drastic removal of the hand above the marking. 'Magical means' includes Formistry.

Would acolyte of undeath be able to make a vyre no longer require blood or emotions to eat? Additionally, would unhallowed flesh work on vyres aswell?

 

[Edouard2000]

So two questions regarding Biters.

Biters dislike every religious symbol besides Skraag, does this extend to Jishrim as well?

Second question about Biters

Do they get tired or winded at all, or are they like an undead who can keep shambling for days?

 

[kaiser_harding]

PROPAGATE || For every three people a Vyre spreads their curse to, transforming them from mortal to their bloodline or from another bloodline to their own, they advance a rank.

This reads to me, as turning three people makes you progress, but I assume its meant to be the same system as the old chain system. Am I incorrect? or is this supposed to be a change that turning three people yourself, and not the chain system allows you to go up in a rank

 

[Brown]

How much of the updated knowledge will new vyres innately know, and what will they have to figure out for themselves?

 

[blargtheawesome]

Would acolyte of undeath be able to make a vyre no longer require blood or emotions to eat? Additionally, would unhallowed flesh work on vyres aswell?

No and yes, respectively.

So two questions regarding Biters.

Biters dislike every religious symbol besides Skraag, does this extend to Jishrim as well?

Yep, unless Jishrim has blessed them.

Second question about Biters

Do they get tired or winded at all, or are they like an undead who can keep shambling for days?

The latter.

PROPAGATE || For every three people a Vyre spreads their curse to, transforming them from mortal to their bloodline or from another bloodline to their own, they advance a rank.

This reads to me, as turning three people makes you progress, but I assume its meant to be the same system as the old chain system. Am I incorrect? or is this supposed to be a change that turning three people yourself, and not the chain system allows you to go up in a rank

Turning three people themselves works; turning one person who turns two works; turning one person who turns one and then that person turns one works. Anyone who has been made a Vyre by the character in question and anyone turned by anyone they've turned into a Vyre (and so on infinitely) works for Propagate.

How much of the updated knowledge will new vyres innately know, and what will they have to figure out for themselves?

(a given player can choose to have their character know either "everything" or "nothing" written on the thread, or anything inbetween, at their discretion ooc)

 

[kaiser_harding]

Biters take on something of a grey pallor, subtle but noticeable. They seem more stout and sturdier than they were before.

is this meant to reflect that this type is stronger, and if so will this be reflected in the new rolls system?

 

[RagingLunacy]

Another thing about this one:
[Enthrall] The Vyre targets another of their kind, feeding on them and then allowing their target to feed on the user in turn. This may only be used on another Vyre. The Vyre using this ability must be of higher rank than the Vyre they are targetting (i.e. Consumed vs Enthralled, or Enthralled vs Fledgling). This ability converts the Vyre that is being targetted into the user's bloodline, making the target their progeny, and the user their sire. The target's old sire is no longer their sire for mechanical purposes.

This ability is gotten at Fledgeling but it states it only works on Vyres of lower rank than the user. Doesn’t this mean this ability does nothing and is unusable by Fledgelings until they become at least Enthralled?

Second question:
For the chain effects for the Vyre bloodlines, is that still based on a Vyre per Vyre basis like the old system?
Or does it now count the whole chain? As in, if there is a chain of 6, everyone in that chain gets the effects of 3 and 6?

 

[Jase]

Yep, unless Jishrim has blessed them.

In the cult system, blessed sponsor non-blessed effectively making them tier 0 from my understanding. Could this mechanic be extended to allow nonblessed in cults to approach shrines they are affiliated through the cult with?